Optics considerations for the 450 Bushmaster?

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Re: Optics considerations for the 450 Bushmaster?

Postby Texas Sheepdawg » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:38 pm

Jailer wrote:
rokdog013 wrote:
Jailer wrote:I've got a Nikon Omega with the BDC reticle. It's perfect for a 20 inch but a little off for my 16 inch carbine. It has held zero through about a hundred rounds or so and is very clear and bright. Plus with 5 inches of eye relief you don't have to worry about "scope eye" from the recoil. :mrgreen:

How do you mean a little off for the 16" ?
I am going to get the 16" camo.


The BDC reticle on the Omega is for a 250 grain projectile at 2200 FPS. The 450B pushes 2200 out of a 20 inch but not the 16. You lose a little velocity with the carbine and the trajectory is different. Basically I found that the 250 yard circle on the BDC was dead on at 225 with my 16 inch.

I got the 3-9x40 from optics Planet.
http://www.opticsplanet.net/nikon-omega-muzzleloading-3-9x40-riflescope.html


Okay thanks, I'll check it out too!
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Re: Optics considerations for the 450 Bushmaster?

Postby Texas Sheepdawg » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:34 pm

Jailer wrote:
rokdog013 wrote:
Jailer wrote:I've got a Nikon Omega with the BDC reticle. It's perfect for a 20 inch but a little off for my 16 inch carbine. It has held zero through about a hundred rounds or so and is very clear and bright. Plus with 5 inches of eye relief you don't have to worry about "scope eye" from the recoil. :mrgreen:

How do you mean a little off for the 16" ?
I am going to get the 16" camo.


The BDC reticle on the Omega is for a 250 grain projectile at 2200 FPS. The 450B pushes 2200 out of a 20 inch but not the 16. You lose a little velocity with the carbine and the trajectory is different. Basically I found that the 250 yard circle on the BDC was dead on at 225 with my 16 inch.

I got the 3-9x40 from optics Planet.
http://www.opticsplanet.net/nikon-omega-muzzleloading-3-9x40-riflescope.html


Checked it out. This link is being added to my AR for further consideration. Thats almost exactly
what I am looking for. And I have a 20 " barrell.
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Re: Optics considerations for the 450 Bushmaster?

Postby johnbearross » Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:38 pm

2zero6 wrote:
johnbearross wrote:Leupold is coming out with a line of variable power red dot scopes (VX-R series). 30mm tubes. I'm wondering if the reticles are vertically- strung ballistic dots?

They have a 1.25-4x20 for $439 at SWFA

No pics yet, but here's descriptions and prices...
http://swfa.com/Leupold-VX-R-Riflescopes-C3458.aspx

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JBR

Like some of the Eotech's? That would be pretty cool but I wonder how they would match up with our drop rate.


I dunno. They do have a VX-R Hog with a "FireDot Pig Plex", though, so that sounds promising for a short-range scope.
http://swfa.com/Leupold-125-4x20-VX-R-H ... 48032.aspx

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Re: Optics considerations for the 450 Bushmaster?

Postby Doxadude » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:08 am

Those sound pretty cool... I'd like a closer look at them when they come out.

I put a Leupold VX-I 2x7 shotgun scope on mine. The dark earth NWTF version... matches my rattle can camo job. I've been pretty happy with it so far.
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Re: Optics considerations for the 450 Bushmaster?

Postby adelmo » Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:59 pm

What type of scope mount are you utilizing? I have a Leopold VXI 1-4 shotgun scope was thinking about.

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Re: Optics considerations for the 450 Bushmaster?

Postby Texas Sheepdawg » Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:58 am

adelmo wrote:What type of scope mount are you utilizing? I have a Leopold VXI 1-4 shotgun scope was thinking about.

Thanks, Alan


Not sure who you are asking. I am using UTG picatinny
13 slot rails, (one piece). I will be switching back and forth
To a night vision scope, and I am still experimenting with
What will be the best set up for this.
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Re: Optics considerations for the 450 Bushmaster?

Postby pitted bore » Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:39 pm

Is the Nikko Stirling Platinum Nighteater 1.5-6x scope an answer to any of the questions posed here?

A couple of forum members have written kindly of it, including wildcatter in January 2010: Link to thread

Midway has it in stock for $100. I'm not sure if there are other vendors in the USA for this model.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=533230

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Re: Optics considerations for the 450 Bushmaster?

Postby xxInfidelxx » Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:41 pm

The Burris Tactical mounts( I used the high ones first are rugged and well made) I had to switch to the PEPR mount to set the scope more forward on the rail. My scope has a lot of eye relief and it was hard get a good picture with the Basic rings. PEPR mounts were just right. They also won't break the bank. I got the PEPR for $69 shipped.
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Re: Optics considerations for the 450 Bushmaster?

Postby 2zero6 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:33 am

pitted bore wrote:Is the Nikko Stirling Platinum Nighteater 1.5-6x scope an answer to any of the questions posed here?

A couple of forum members have written kindly of it, including wildcatter in January 2010: Link to thread

Midway has it in stock for $100. I'm not sure if there are other vendors in the USA for this model.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=533230

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Re: Optics considerations for the 450 Bushmaster?

Postby Texas Sheepdawg » Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:12 pm

pitted bore wrote:Is the Nikko Stirling Platinum Nighteater 1.5-6x scope an answer to any of the questions posed here?

A couple of forum members have written kindly of it, including wildcatter in January 2010: Link to thread

Midway has it in stock for $100. I'm not sure if there are other vendors in the USA for this model.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=533230

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I noticed that it is mentioned in the threads that the Nikko scope
Is described as a 30mm tube but midway describes it as a 1" scope.
Which is it?
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