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Too much gun for the scope

Postby srd66 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:32 am

I had the great debate about what kind of scope to top off my 450 Bushmaster with and decided to see if I could get a higher quality budget scope because I was ready to shoot. After reading a few reviews on SWFA about scopes several people mentioned that the Simmons Aetec Master series scopes were rugged and held up well being beaten around on 4-wheelers and came at a good price so I decided to pick one up for the Thumper and placed it on a Burris PEPR mount and it seemed rock solid. This 2.8-10 power scope has an illuminated reticle and good glass for a budget scope. Off to the pasture I go to get the gun sighted in and I have to say the Thumper is a blast to shoot! After 4 rounds I am getting pretty close to center and I adjusted the scope a couple of more clicks and shot again. After the 5th shot I noticed the reticle has canted to the right just a little and there are a couple of black specks on the lens. I immediately thought that I had not tightened the scope mount enough and the scope twisted in the mount. I look at the scope and things seem to be squared away so I decide to shoot another round to see what’s up and sure enough after round 6 the reticle is canted about 45 degrees and more black specks show up on the inside of the scope...Ruined. Now I have to send the scope back and get a higher quality replacement. Moral of the story... don’t go cheap with the thumper even if its a "higher quality" cheap.
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Re: Too much gun for the scope

Postby Hoot » Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:43 am

Before I upgraded my Browning .300 Win Mag to a different scope, I had a Sightron SII 3-9x42. It has amazing clarity throughout its range and held zero religiously despite the battering the Win Mag gave it. I don't know what you paid for your Aetec, but you can pick up the Sightron for around $200 quite frequently. Perhaps less on the used market. The SII line is one of the best kept secrets among scopes. They're not all Buff looking, but they put out.
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Re: Too much gun for the scope

Postby bushmeister » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:40 pm

Wildcatter mentioned a scope on the cheap a few months ago in this http://450bushmaster.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=481&p=2897&hilit=nikko#p2897thread. I have no experience with them, but I might have to look into one for my muzzleloader.
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Re: Too much gun for the scope

Postby Billsmith63 » Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:44 pm

I had the same problem with the reticle canting on a BSA Sweet 22 used on a Ruger 10/22. I think that may be a common problem with a cheap scope. If my 20" .450 upper ever arrives, I plan to put a Millet 1-4x24mm DMS on it. I had considered their 4-16 x 50mm tactical but don't see the need for that kind of power on the .450.

On a separate note: NC Star is crap! Don't waste your money. (at least the one that I bought was! Had to re-zero it every time out)
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Re: Too much gun for the scope

Postby BayouBob » Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:52 pm

Bill, The BSA's and most of the other Chinese scopes are pretty unreliable. Did you install a nylon buffer in your 10/22? The bolt hitting the steel stop at the rear of its travel is so violent that 10/22's will break the reticle of even quality scopes. The buffer is only a few bucks and takes a couple of minutes to install.
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Re: Too much gun for the scope

Postby Hoot » Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:29 pm

BayouBob wrote:Bill, The BSA's and most of the other Chinese scopes are pretty unreliable. Did you install a nylon buffer in your 10/22? The bolt hitting the steel stop at the rear of its travel is so violent that 10/22's will break the reticle of even quality scopes. The buffer is only a few bucks and takes a couple of minutes to install.

+1 to that. buffer regardless of caliber in a 10/22 action
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Re: Too much gun for the scope

Postby Billsmith63 » Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:25 pm

Thanks guys, I'm going to order that buffer. I'm thinkin' that when I scope the .450, I'm going to use a Millet Designated Marksman.
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Re: Too much gun for the scope

Postby BayouBob » Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:10 pm

Hey Bill, Midway has the 10/22 buffers on sale this week.
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Re: Too much gun for the scope

Postby bad luck » Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:07 am

Billsmith63 wrote:I had the same problem with the reticle canting on a BSA Sweet 22 used on a Ruger 10/22. I think that may be a common problem with a cheap scope. If my 20" .450 upper ever arrives, I plan to put a Millet 1-4x24mm DMS on it. I had considered their 4-16 x 50mm tactical but don't see the need for that kind of power on the .450.

On a separate note: NC Star is crap! Don't waste your money. (at least the one that I bought was! Had to re-zero it every time out)



Just a warning on the millet. I got one of the 1-4 DMS and put it on my 450 and the scopes will not hold up to the 450. Millet said they would and replaced the scope 4 times now. None of them made it past sight in. One of them spun the reticule, and the others just wouldn't hold the adjustments. I finally put the last one on a 223 ar and am looking at the TR24 1-4 offered by trijicon for my 450.
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Re: Too much gun for the scope

Postby BarracudaBob » Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:34 am

My Nikon Omega has held up for 100's of rounds. I bought it refurbished from natchezss.com for under $150.

I really like these rings. I can mount a laser &/or flashlight to the scope or take it off for hunting. Very solid for the price.

Command Arms 1" Picatinny-Style Scope Rings with Integral Picatinny-Style Top Rail Matte High
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$17.00
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