this weekend finally shot the 450, its everything you guys talk of and more. Awesome! bore sighted, first shot at 100 yards an inch low, 2 1/2" left. corrected, second shot in the bull. attached a pic, hopefully that worked. I'm a proud new papa of the little beast! set it for 1"high at 100 yds, next 3 were all touching, I love it. my newest favorite rifle. by the way, I'm new here, first post, hi ya'll. wonderful to hang out here with you.