Reducing recoil

[Hopalong]

I used this stock on my 450B before going back to a fixed stock.

https://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/ ... and-ar-15/

[plant_one]

did you get the 16" carbine gas upper or the 18" midgas upper?


if its their 16" i have 3 words for you


adjustable gas block.


on the 18 i dunno how much you can tame down the gas without having cycling issues. on carbine case we've got wiggle room to work with.

hth

[muddy]

did you get the 16" carbine gas upper or the 18" midgas upper?


if its their 16" i have 3 words for you


adjustable gas block.


on the 18 i dunno how much you can tame down the gas without having cycling issues. on carbine case we've got wiggle room to work with.

hth

I have the 18" barrel. 3 more words..

S**t outta luck?

[Buckeye45]

Not at all. That Bear creek 18 inch upper is a heavy mug. I now, I just got one. You have 18" of heavy profile steel and a "robust" brake on the end. So that there will help a lot. As for the stock, anything that doesn't fit increases felt recoil. With multiple kids stick with an adjustable stock so it can be adjusted for each shooter. That in itself will make the gun more comfortable to shoot. Any upgrade in a pad is just bonus. If you don't like to tinker then just don't. What I mean is many of us like to tinker and chase things around in search of marginal gains. If you want to keep it simple than stick with what you got. I think your kids will be just fine.

[plant_one]

you're not SOL, but i just dont know how much benefit a AGB will get you on an 18" midgas. I'm sure it'll be some, but i dunno how much you can restrict that (and reduce felt recoil) without being undergassed with that system.

[muddy]

Not at all. That Bear creek 18 inch upper is a heavy mug. I now, I just got one. You have 18" of heavy profile steel and a "robust" brake on the end. So that there will help a lot. As for the stock, anything that doesn't fit increases felt recoil. With multiple kids stick with an adjustable stock so it can be adjusted for each shooter. That in itself will make the gun more comfortable to shoot. Any upgrade in a pad is just bonus. If you don't like to tinker then just don't. What I mean is many of us like to tinker and chase things around in search of marginal gains. If you want to keep it simple than stick with what you got. I think your kids will be just fine.

Do you plan to get a different brake or keep the one that came with it? I have been looking at the brake that Ross makes simply based on reviews here on the forum.

[plant_one]

the BCA muzzle device is a flash hider, not a brake - unless they've changed something i missed

[Buckeye45]

My BCA upper was an impulse buy. I've got 2 others I'm working on now so the BCA will stay stock until the others are finally tweaked out and a full accuracy run done on them. A brake will help tremendously but after firing with a brake while hunting last year I'm going to get a Kaw Valley linear comp. if you use a brake you need to keep ear plugs handy and that's not how I hunt. My ears rang for two days after one shot, so I'll take thump over deaf.

[sakremer]

Springco.com has a number of buffer action springs that you could use.
http://www.sprinco.com/tactical.html

The best one for the 450 is the red spring.

[muddy]

My BCA upper was an impulse buy. I've got 2 others I'm working on now so the BCA will stay stock until the others are finally tweaked out and a full accuracy run done on them. A brake will help tremendously but after firing with a brake while hunting last year I'm going to get a Kaw Valley linear comp. if you use a brake you need to keep ear plugs handy and that's not how I hunt. My ears rang for two days after one shot, so I'll take thump over deaf.

Yeah my buddy has a bolt Bushy and he said the brake made it so loud his ears rang for over a day with 1 shot. I'd have to definitely invest in some good muffs for the kids and myself in the blind