I love my Thumper but

Talk about the AR15 style rifles chambered in 450 Bushmaster.

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Re: I love my Thumper but

Postby PyroRobby » Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:34 am

Texas Sheepdawg wrote:Well. I really don’t want to discuss ... Yet that buck
Had enough adrenaline in him to make it that far.
As for actual CNS shock. He should have dropped in his tracks, but I didn’t hit anything close to his CNS.
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Just amazing, yeah I guess no magic bullets.
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Re: I love my Thumper but

Postby PyroRobby » Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:08 am

Bmt85 wrote:
I think Savage is so inexpensive because ...

Anyways, sorry to derail the thread. I’m not trying to push you away from the 450, I love the cartridge, that’s why I have 2 dedicated lowers and 4 uppers. :D

The 200 XPB is a great bullet. Does great inside 100yds, maybe 150yd, depending on muzzle speed. It has a low b.c. and needs a minimum of 1800fps to expand, IIRC. So if you can SAFELY push it to 2500fps or better, it should fit your needs perfectly.

That was a nice rifle by the way!



Np, I started talking about the MSR10, lol

Yeah, it is good to hear feedback because I don't know. Spec and on paper; but not in hand and dunno, gotta get opinions to see what folks know that I don't.
The 450B is very interesting and I think it has a lot of utility. I think it will do the intended job of a bush rifle, very well.

Per the Fairbanks Hospital data I have seen and bear attacks, they stated use something bigger than a .44 magnum. The new trend in Alaska seems to be going to the 10mm. I have a 10mm, the Tanfoglio Witness Hunter. Because it is a double stack mag and capacity matters. If the Hospital data concludes go bigger than a .44; but the trend is 10mm, to me this implies it really wasn't caliber, it was a hit to the CNS that stopped the huge predator. Bleed out takes too long, so you have to hit the off switch. The energy of the round needs to be able to get to the CTS though and not bounce off the skull or get deflected away by the underbrush. Where it is popular for the chest basket carry of a S&W 500, I am told the .45 long colt and the .454 Casull are plenty enough and more easily controllable. What I summarize is that being able to control the recoil and get the followup shot quickly is really important, so this is where the AR platform shines. Muzzel break, recoil buffer, recoil pad and easy to aim and get the hit, is inherent to the pluses of the AR platform. If all those other pistol rounds do the job, the 450B has to as well and the AR platform offers better recoil dampening, plus accuracy.

Yeah, 450B makes a lot of sense. Now all I need to do is figure out my favorite load. The .308,it isn't as much the bush gun, it is what I think I would go to for the 100- 200 yard hogging. I think I can do with the 450B what I had the 12ga slugger in mind for, and get a .308 for the little bit longer shots for the open field hunting. No reason I can't have both and I think the 450B will turn out to be the better brush tool than a 12ga slug shotty. Looks like head-shots and or a thermal ocular need to be considered now too.
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Re: I love my Thumper but

Postby Al in Mi » Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:17 am

Spent 3 weeks in Ak a year ago, 75% of the guys I met on a river carried Glock 20 10mm and either Buffalo Bore or Underwood hard cast bullets. Only seen a couple revolvers and a few with spray.

I can tell you first hand, once you seen a brown at 60yds in the river, anything your carrying will be too small. Suckers are huge.
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Re: I love my Thumper but

Postby PyroRobby » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:33 pm

Al in Mi wrote:Spent 3 weeks in Ak a year ago, 75% of the guys I met on a river carried Glock 20 10mm and either Buffalo Bore or Underwood hard cast bullets. Only seen a couple revolvers and a few with spray.

I can tell you first hand, once you seen a brown at 60yds in the river, anything your carrying will be too small. Suckers are huge.


yeah, very big and I agree, what ever I was carrying and knowing how things don't just always drop when shot, it gets really scary that situation. Let the bear sleep, walkaway quietly and quickly.
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Re: I love my Thumper but

Postby PyroRobby » Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:24 pm

Bear rifle?
https://onlylongrange.com/bn36x3-carbine-30-06/

BN36X3 - Carbine (.30-06) $1,895.00


I was just wondering, thought I had seen a 30-06 AR platform. I guess if I was worried about invasive brown bear herds destroying my farm in AK ...
I think I will stick with hogging here in TX and the 450B.
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Re: I love my Thumper but

Postby Al in Mi » Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:48 pm

They make in 300 win mag too ;)
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Re: I love my Thumper but

Postby PyroRobby » Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:05 pm

Al in Mi wrote:They make in 300 win mag too ;)


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