plant_one wrote:barring a CNS hit - ... using a hyper velocity bullet that does a lot of shockwave damage ... the other thing you caught on was changing your point of impact. which is why in your "charging scenerio" a mag dump can be so effective - you're changing your point of impact from heart/lung vitals to smashing through a bunch of CNS stuff - head, spine, brain, etc - as well as staring down the major front ambulatory area of both front shoulders. which is why when you get into that zone those 250 ftx will suit your needs just fine.
i'm sure someone with some actual pig experience with the 450 may come along and give you some more specific advice to your quarry, but when discussing how critters die - for the most part most of them follow the same set of rules
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Thank you this was a lot of good information.
The FPS rating for the 250 Grain Hornady Black is just sub 2200FPS. If I recall, on the ammo box FPS ratings are the best case scenario, so typically a non-impinged system with a maybe 24"+ barrel? If this impression is true than the 250 grain Hornady Black would be below the 2200 FPS shockwave mechanic, in my 18" mid-length impinged rifle. To reach the velocity that would mean a lighter bullet, I don't know loading to make an assumption about max load and pressure to try pushing a heavy bullet a higher velocity. Charts I have seen indicate heavier bullets will be slower results from the load recommendations, so implies don't push it. I am guessing the whole point would be how quickly the wound channel causes the bleed-out, if not a CNS hit. Plus to bleeding caused if the round achieves shockwave ballistics, risk being minus to punch due to lower sectional density. Since I think the basic point of the 450B is to punch through brush and then the game, trying to achieve the shockwave is the wrong direction for a "Brush-gun"?
Yeah, drop and bleed out in shock and in place vs big bore hole through the game that will run anyway. If you are trying to save meat, I would try and not mess up the backstrap, neck, shoulders, hams and loins. Ribs and belly don't amount to much on a wild hog they tend to be kind of lean from running. So if it isn't a headshot or a good bleeder, might mean having a thermal ocular to track in the thick brush. Logically, save money, uncomplicate the ammo, do a headshot, is what I am thinking. Headshot doesn't require a 450B; but if you are in the thick brush and walking up on a mean one, then a 450B makes a lot of sense and being on an AR platform with rapid follow-up shots and of capacity matters.
All the data and feedback has helped. I like my 450 and can see good bush use for it. Have some more experimenting to do to. Have to say though, pretty sure I will go ahead and get the Savage MSR10 Hunter in a .308, see which I wind up carrying more when I go hog hunting.
Gun control is using both hands, good gun control is hitting your target precisely.