ND3 Plus 450 BM

[FirstNation]

Not in my experience on deer. They may look up, probably because of the noise I was making, but never spooked because of the light. It doesn't function well in cold weather. I see the manufacturer now advises on marginal use in cold weather.

[dcbeattie]

They make a newer model on the ND3 called the Subzero. I have one of those and it seems to work ok below 30 deg. The original model died around 30. I haven't had a chance to anything real with it. Just harassing squirrels in my front yard. Doesn't seem to bother them

[Siringo]

From what I have read -- green lasers do not work well below freezing.

[wildcatter]

From what I have read -- green lasers do not work well below freezing.

Wow, and that's when I'd need them most. Maybe we can get that verified, as in if one of our guys would stick their greenie into the freezer for a day or two and then try it out???

..t

[FirstNation]

The early model definitely has serious problems in the cold. All it takes is about 5 minutes outside in any 30 degree or less cold weather, and the light starts to fade quickly. I also needed it most in the winter, and it was un-usable. The Company suggested wrapping hand or toe warmers around the barrel of the light to keep it warm! I wouldn't bother to take it out in less than 50 degree weather. 60 and above and it's good. Poor/cumbersome mounting system for scopes also.

[thatguy]

Please excuse my ignornace (i had to actually google to see what the ND3 acdually was)..

is the laser your aiming point OR does the laser 'spotlight' (for lack of a better word) the animal so you can use your normal sights?


thanks

brian

[FirstNation]

It's the spotlight, but you aim it to match the point of impact of your open sights or a scope. I wouldn't attempt to actually aim with it unless I had it mounted on a shotgun. The beam can be focused from a very wide beam to a pinpoint of light at quite a long range. I've had it mounted on a variety of different rifles. I can't decide which one to leave it on!

[BillytheKid]

The early model definitely has serious problems in the cold. All it takes is about 5 minutes outside in any 30 degree or less cold weather, and the light starts to fade quickly. I also needed it most in the winter, and it was un-usable. The Company suggested wrapping hand or toe warmers around the barrel of the light to keep it warm! I wouldn't bother to take it out in less than 50 degree weather. 60 and above and it's good. Poor/cumbersome mounting system for scopes also.

I'm guessing the fade out is more due to the batteries getting chilled, as opposed to the "light" components.

[MR 450BUSHMASTER]

OK - I tried last night to spot some critters with the ND3 with no luck. I did spook a lot of waterfowl in a marsh near my place however. As soon as the light got on to them they flushed - even with the widest beam setting. Sorry I don't have any additional info yet! Overnight hunt scheduled on the 6th of May...

Also agree with the poor scope mounting system. Therer is some play in it when touched. It will hold its zero but if you were to grap the ND3 it will move slightly. I'll probably attach it directly to the bushmaster. Also worried about having the weight attached to the scope when firing and damaging the scope!

[MR 450BUSHMASTER]

In case anyone wants to see what the ND3x50 looks like. Its sitting on a redfield...

First test will now be April 16th. Stand by for report!