450Bushmaster.net

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Has anyone tried these Rainier bullets? The weight and size sound good however a drawback may be that in their liturature they state that they are good to 1500 FPS, purhaps too fragile for 450 velocities? They are certainly priced right for target and plinking.

Slash -- past posts say they don't work. Strip the rifling. Hoot had some posts on these. Very soft and thin copper coating.

Siringo wrote:Slash -- past posts say they don't work. Strip the rifling. Hoot had some posts on these. Very soft and thin copper coating.

Thanks Siringo, I guess my search of past threads was a little too hasty!

The worst part about them is they're so soft, it's near impossible to get a reliable crimp on them. Any inward pressure on the bullet does not provide a biasing spring-back. It just squashes and stays squashed while the case springs back a little yielding a loose fit. Then they lose small shards of jacket as they exit the bore. Lord help you if you have a chrony down-range. I've been mining spent bullets out of the range and when I smelt those plated types, once the lead runs out, there is this amazingly thin, bullet shaped foil that remains. It's so thin, trying to pick it up is like trying to pick up one of those puff-balls full of spores you see on the ground.

Hoot

That's what I feared, especially considering they state that their plating is only .004" thick. Thanks for the info guys.

slash2 wrote:That's what I feared, especially considering they state that their plating is only .004" thick. Thanks for the info guys.

FYI and for your consideration and comparisons. Those Barnes Busters, built to my specs, are Hard Lead, not the soft stuff, hey, even the deep penetrators of other companies only use 3% antimony, so these are actually Hard lead, inside of .060" jackets. Those .004" jackets sounds like Copper Flaking Applica..t

Copper plated bullets are great for handguns, I shoot almost exclusively Berry's Plated Bullets in my .40. But from my experience I wouldn't use them over the suggested speeds. I would spend the extra money and get a jacket bullet for the 450.