Weapon of Choice wrote:wildcatter wrote:Weapon of Choice, do you expect the primary ranges to be under 100yds? If so, does slowing down the 200xpb to a muzzle velocity of say, 2000fps, make any sense?? ..t
I think the average shots are going to be 80-100 yards. I would not be surprised to get shots from 100-200 but I hope to be able to take closer shots. I have not hunted hogs in this area before so I am just guessing based on the area.
So, the point is I don't want to load them down. I want to be able to take a hog at 200 yards provided I have the right shot.
Ok, I'm starting to get the picture, sometimes I need to hear it several ways, before I realize what's going on. Next time just get out a fly swatter and give me a Swat..
You do have a narrow window of use. Let's see, you need a no-lead bullet, that is capable of 200yds with a quick kill, can't over expand at the closer ranges, but must preform well, from say, 0-200yds. Something the normal bullets in much lessor calibers just aren't quite capable of, humm.
Just a thought, based on the following premise,.."the 45cal, at rest, is larger in diameter than expanded 30cal". Even a 375cal hardly ever expands to .4515". Seems you can have your cake and eat it too, in my mind, if you throw out the window, that you just have to have an expansion 45cal bullet. Let me explane. Always in the past, well before the advent of high performance 45cal bullets, one actually needed an expansion bullet, to be able to do more damage in it's wound channel. Right? Now however, I for one, no longer care about expansion. Terminal performance with a non-expanding 45cal bullets out-kill any expanded 30cal or 338 or even the venerable 375cal. I can and do make this statement from some 20+++ years of Professional Hunting, after seeing everything there is to shoot, shot thousands of times. So, this being said, my thought is, don't worry about petals or expansion or anything that can happen to a high speed 45cal bullet, get any qualifying 45cal bullet for your area of choice and go kill the thing that needs a little killing. If you need something that might be a little better than some of the other choices, then get a LBT style solid and hunt "Everything" with perfect success. If you do choose a bullet that at close ranges shears off the nose or the petals lay down beside the bullet body, or it fails in any other way that is totally unacceptable, by normal standards associated in lessor calibers, even in that failed state, your only worry, with your Hi-Performance 45, is how far the drag is going to be, because dead in it's tracks, is dead. What I'm trying to say is, all of the things we've had to worry about, terminally speaking, are all gone now. A Hi-performance 45cal bullet will over come any marginality as I always say.."when the shots are marginal and they Always seem marginal, take enough gun". Your choice of the 450 Bushmaster, will surprise you beyond your belief, no mater what bullet you put in it. We can argue the relative differences, we can see how many Angels we can fit on the head of a needle, but the bottom line is this, even the wrong zero-lead 45cal hi-speed bullet, will kill anything you need to kill in your area, and this with startling aplomb. The Bushmeister has said it best and I often quote him .."I know longer need tracking skills".
What I hope to finally read is, what bullet you finally think is best, that you killed a twenty point buck, how well was the kill, what was the over-all performance of that bullet, and would you use it again or why you think another style of bullet is better.
In the mean time, keep this debate going. I bet you'll choose the right bullet for you and I bet it kills just fine..t