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Hoot wrote:

commander faschisto wrote:Wildcatter loaded these in his personal 450b at 2100fps (with the "Corvette" modification he did) that some teenagers used for hog hunting, IIRC. He posted some pics of the event a few years ago here...it was with the rifle he has pictured as his avatar. I can't remember if he mentioned the load information...

Edit: Just found the post: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1634&p=9966&hilit=barnes+buster+wildcatter#p9966

In another post he mentions that a "stock" 450b will not get to 2100fps before excessive pressure signs show up, along with timing problems (early extraction)... I think the powder used with this was 1680...

The various single-shot and bolt guns available these days should be able to sling these whompers at that speed or better, I would think. Muzzle brake recommended...

Having loaded up those resized (.458) 325gr FTX bullets to 1950fps with 1680, I can say that while a muzzle brake is a big plus, the Lion's Share of the recoil is from Newton's 3rd Law. The mid-length gas system on the Bartz handled them just fine in terms of timing, but yes, a rifle-length would probably be more at home with slower powders like that weight of bullet would suggest. QuickLoad shows a maximum safe (ninny) pressure with 1680 will get you to 1900fps. I took them up to 1950fps and unfortunately, ran out of bullets before I had advanced the charge to where I had adverse pressure signs. Should have bought more when Midway had them on sale, but didn't expect them to shoot accurately based upon the experiences I had with 300 grainers. Was pleasantly surprised when the fastest load produced 5-shot 1 MOA accuracy at 100 yds! Three step resizing each of them was a chore, but definitely do-able if you have the dies and the time.

I still have my Franklin 20" upper with rifle-length gas system. I will be going on a pig hunt down at the Circle T Ranch in February, courtesy of my rich brother-in-law. It'll be the first guided hunt I've ever been on. My brother-in-law has gone several times and says that the staff treats you real good. Can't Wait!

Mike, we're driving down I-35 most of the way. Sure would like to have a face-to-face with you on the way, if only to shake your hand and spend a few minutes if you're close to I-35. Brother-in-law not much of a dawdler, but I bet it would be a welcome break in the drive, to stop for a short while and shake off the road. Food for thought...

Hoot