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shooter75 wrote:Hey Hoot could you tell me if QL has the Barnes #30562 250 grain HP in their data base?? Im on the fence on getting QL.
shooter75 wrote:No worries Hoot thanks for the info. By over-expanding do you mean blowing the petals off the shank??
Hoot wrote:shooter75 wrote:No worries Hoot thanks for the info. By over-expanding do you mean blowing the petals off the shank??
Yes and No. We want gradual expansion combined with deep penetration. You wouldn't want it splashing on the surface even though the lethality is still there with a bullet this diameter and at this velocity. The benefit of easier expansion is actually a plus when you take shots out at distances beyond where a more compact hollow point (higher BC) bullet doesn't initiate expansion. The issue of unnecessary meat damage comes into play at some point. I have always and still do consider my 450b a "brush buster" caliber. If I were hunting whitetails where I knew my only shots came out beyond 150yds, I would change calibers. The 450b is not my only rifle. I would not use a 4x4, Off Road, Mudder to compete in the LeMans or the Daytona 500. They don't play to its strengths.
Hoot
shooter75 wrote:
Hey Hoot yes that does make sense. In my case, ill be going to central Georgia at the end of November for some night swine hunting!!! The outfitter i will be hunting with has baited feeders at no more than 50 yards with kill lights on them. So i wont be worrying about long range, high bc issues. From your point above maybe i wont load them as hot for such a short range and cause to much meat damage! Last year i went kinda overkill and was hunting with a 300 Rum with 180 grain partitions and shot a 200lb hog at 125 yards with a straight on shot through the front shoulder and recover the bullet in the rear ham!!! To much meat loss for my liking!! Recovered bullet weighed in at 130 grains.
Hoot wrote:shooter75 wrote:
Hey Hoot yes that does make sense. In my case, ill be going to central Georgia at the end of November for some night swine hunting!!! The outfitter i will be hunting with has baited feeders at no more than 50 yards with kill lights on them. So i wont be worrying about long range, high bc issues. From your point above maybe i wont load them as hot for such a short range and cause to much meat damage! Last year i went kinda overkill and was hunting with a 300 Rum with 180 grain partitions and shot a 200lb hog at 125 yards with a straight on shot through the front shoulder and recover the bullet in the rear ham!!! To much meat loss for my liking!! Recovered bullet weighed in at 130 grains.
I too will be going on a hog hunt at some game farm type setup down in Texas myself come February. It's been on my bucket list for the past 7 years (since I got my 450b). It will be from comfortably apportioned blinds overlooking bait stations much like you mentioned. More like shooting than hunting IMHO, but my brother-in-law set it up and he's a candy ass. I will be loading 275 XPB's over 40gr of Lil Gun at 2.29 COL. Plenty of oomph for the job. Money is tight right now due to a moratorium on OT at work, or I would get a box of those 325gr Barnes Busters to try. I may take some of those 245gr brass and 250gr copper Extreme Penetrators along as well assuming I have time this fall to do some water shots with them first. Rimfire Benchrest (my other passion) season ends this Sunday with our big Tournament and the summer is drawing to a close, affording me more time for my backlog of 450b reloading experiments, minus the hot weather. I also have a handful of 30 Remington AR experiments to conclude if the weather holds. That's a reasonable hog AR caliber also. Endless opportunities.
Hoot
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