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Lyman 450B die set?

Postby Bmt85 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:00 am

Was looking around Midway when I came across this

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/197053/lyman-msr-precision-4-die-system

I have no experience with Lyman dies, but I really like that the dies are black oxide coated and it comes with a case gauge.
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Re: Lyman 450B die set?

Postby Al in Mi » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:54 am

looks like a nice set!
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Re: Lyman 450B die set?

Postby Hoot » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:45 am

"The black finish matches your rifle" is really grasping for a sales pitch, but I like the fact that it includes a chamber fit gauge. They obviously did their homework.

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Re: Lyman 450B die set?

Postby plant_one » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:57 am

honestly a SB die for this caliber seems a bit much.

i can understand the need for one when normalizing military brass that may have been fired in a MG like 5.56 or 7.62 .... but for a caliber like this it seems.... excessive. My concern is over working the brass and shortening the longevity of it.
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Re: Lyman 450B die set?

Postby Hoot » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:56 am

plant_one wrote:honestly a SB die for this caliber seems a bit much.

i can understand the need for one when normalizing military brass that may have been fired in a MG like 5.56 or 7.62 .... but for a caliber like this it seems.... excessive. My concern is over working the brass and shortening the longevity of it.


Actually I modded one of my shell holders (cheaper than an entire die) to allow the resizing die to come down a little further and it made some cases with too much growth, chamber again in my AR based upper, where they used to bind a little bit going in.

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Re: Lyman 450B die set?

Postby Texas Sheepdawg » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:15 pm

Hoot wrote:
plant_one wrote:honestly a SB die for this caliber seems a bit much.

i can understand the need for one when normalizing military brass that may have been fired in a MG like 5.56 or 7.62 .... but for a caliber like this it seems.... excessive. My concern is over working the brass and shortening the longevity of it.


Actually I modded one of my shell holders (cheaper than an entire die) to allow the resizing die to come down a little further and it made some cases with too much growth, chamber again in my AR based upper, where they used to bind a little bit going in.

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Re: Lyman 450B die set?

Postby Hoot » Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:25 pm

Texas Sheepdawg wrote:
Hoot wrote:
plant_one wrote:honestly a SB die for this caliber seems a bit much.

i can understand the need for one when normalizing military brass that may have been fired in a MG like 5.56 or 7.62 .... but for a caliber like this it seems.... excessive. My concern is over working the brass and shortening the longevity of it.


Actually I modded one of my shell holders (cheaper than an entire die) to allow the resizing die to come down a little further and it made some cases with too much growth, chamber again in my AR based upper, where they used to bind a little bit going in.

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I carefully chucked it in my lathe, making sure it was trued and using a carbide insert tool, shaved it down as far as I could go and still have a reasonable amount of "meat" left. I don't have it at work with me but IIRC, I shortened it something like .075 or so. By pushing the case further up into the resizing die, I get a little more neck tension for my trouble as well. Not leaps and bounds of difference, but I could feel it when I seated a bullet. A lesser degree of the old TightNeck experiment, from back in 2012. Visually, its easy to tell it from an un-modded one, so you don't mix them up.

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Re: Lyman 450B die set?

Postby Texas Sheepdawg » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:14 pm

About the only way I could do that would be to just rub it on the side walk at work and hope for the best. :lol:
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Re: Lyman 450B die set?

Postby ScottyPotty » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:13 pm

I like it because it comes with the "M" Die and the case gauge, for the same money as Hornady.
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