pitted bore wrote:wildcatter wrote:Hey Pit and Knuckles, the fcd for the 45acp is a taper crimp and is the die I used to crimp the 45 pro in the beginning. The real question is... does the 45colt and 454 Casual have a stab crimper, the same crimp as their 45-70 FCD has. If it does we may be able to use it and yes their add statement is confusing. I tried to call their listed dealers, but none of them even knew what I was talking about, no-joy there. Guess we won't know until after the holiday..t
T-
Thanks for chiming in. A couple of comments/questions:
{1} Does your Lee Factory Crimp die for the 45ACP produce a taper crimp in a different way than the Hornady? I'm asking because I know that the Hornady taper crimp die can over-crimp cases causing the case mouth diameter to drop below specs. Maybe the operation of thel Lee die is too complex to explain in text.
I'd be willing to fork over the cost of the Lee die if I can be assured it works differently than the Hornady and and if it works well. The fact that the Lee die haa some carbide in it seems to indicate its crimp action is operating differently than the squeeze the Hornady puts out.
{2} As a guess, the Lee Factory Crimp Die for the 45 Colt/454 Casull is a roll criimp die, and not the collet/stab crimp type of die. The ad blurb says "Revolver dies roll crimp with no limit as to the amount."
--Bob
Hey Pitted-Bull Bob,..
No, the Taper Crimp is just that, a Taper. They are all supposed to work the same. If your Hornady Taper Crimp Die can resize under the standard and thus not pick-up the chamber end, with the case mouth, there is something wrong and the die is an Ops. The design of that die is supposed to be such, that you could put on a ton of crimp, say a 1/2" or more and still catch the case mouth on the chamber end. Bobber, when you put on the undersized Taper Crimp, with your die, does it pass my "Thunk" Test? You might want to compare the sound to a factory round.
For you guys that have not read it, over on Cal-Guns and here, I suggested a useful tool.. "Thunk Test", your loaded case when "DROPPED" into a vertical barrel, better have a very discernible "THUNK", when it bottoms out on the chamber. This is useful in all manor of trouble shooting..t