Looking for a SHTF projectile

[2zero6]

Anybody know if this is plausible or tried it:

http://lehighbullets.com/products.asp?cat=16

[Al in Mi]

The ML guys seem to be getting good accuracy from them.

Personally, I think they'd need relief bands like his .458 and .500 bullets.

The good news is, Dave is very open to new designs and sizes, just drop him a line.

[Siringo]

Regarding the sabots -- I have tried them before using Hornady w/40cals. I used only 5744 powder to be on the safe side. I could not get MV over 1700 fps. Accuracy was none existant. Bullets never hit paper at 100 yards. Two problems: First, sabot petals flower immeadately after bore exit. They contact the flash suppressor/brake and disturb bullet flight. This would not happen w/o the flash suppressor/muzzle brake. Second, when the rear of the sabot passed over the gas port, the gas pressure blew a perfect 1/2 moon divot in the skirt.

IMO a usable sabot would have a metal gas check on the base that is longer in length than the gas hole diameter. It would be an interesting project to be able to shoot 35 caliber bullets, 375's. 40's. ect. However, it is doubtful that the pressures would be high enough to function the AR action. The muzzloader smokeless crowd is running some pretty big charges of smokeless. I have seen up to 60 grains of Little Gun on posts.

[wildcatter]

Regarding the sabots -- I have tried them before using Hornady w/40cals. I used only 5744 powder to be on the safe side. I could not get MV over 1700 fps. Accuracy was none existant. Bullets never hit paper at 100 yards. Two problems: First, sabot petals flower immeadately after bore exit. They contact the flash suppressor/brake and disturb bullet flight. This would not happen w/o the flash suppressor/muzzle brake. Second, when the rear of the sabot passed over the gas port, the gas pressure blew a perfect 1/2 moon divot in the skirt.

IMO a usable sabot would have a metal gas check on the base that is longer in length than the gas hole diameter. It would be an interesting project to be able to shoot 35 caliber bullets, 375's. 40's. ect. However, it is doubtful that the pressures would be high enough to function the AR action. The muzzloader smokeless crowd is running some pretty big charges of smokeless. I have seen up to 60 grains of Little Gun on posts.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't think 2zero6 is suggesting to shoot these with the sabots on. These are .452" dia bullets and the reports I get are, that they shoot like a house on fire. My self, I think I'd put in a grove for our side crimp, might not be nessessary because they look like they have a great crimping area already. BTW, we should start to think about standardizing the crimp location, width, depth, etc. for the side crimp. Mine currently is very thin and fairly close to the case mouth, say about .125" Everything, everyone has done to date, has worked great, so if we were to standardize it we could get Lee to run us a batch???

And BTW, welcome to the club 2zero6, the knowledge here will be of great value to you, to say nothing of all the goodies you have running around in your head, that will be of great value to us, and already has...I like the Trophy Room idea. I wouldn't be surprised if the Mad Mud Bugger doesn' jump all over that one..

And BTW-II, have you caught up on all the reading at Calguns, where we all here contributed to, before the MB got us squared away?

[2zero6]

And BTW, welcome to the club 2zero6, the knowledge here will be of great value to you, to say nothing of all the goodies you have running around in your head, that will be of great value to us, and already has...I like the Trophy Room idea. I wouldn't be surprised if the Mad Mud Bugger doesn' jump all over that one..

And BTW-II, have you caught up on all the reading at Calguns, where we all here contributed to, before the MB got us squared away?

Thank you for the gracious welcome I am a noob when it comes to reloading but know my way around an AR and most firearms just never really got into loading for some reason. I've done alot of AR custom stuff and can't wait to absorb all the knowledge you guys bring to the table. As for calguns I've been lurking around the thread for quite some time. Somebody asked if we could transfer all threlevant data to this site. It wouldn't be too difficult with the easiest way being to make a .PDF and hosting it ib a FAQ or the reload section. Thanks again to MB for this forum.

[2zero6]

Some others I was looking at playing around with:



Extreme HV

Scorpion

Scorpion expanded

[Al in Mi]

Some others I was looking at playing around with:



Extreme HV
[ http://www.customprojectile.com/thumbnail.asp?file=assets/images/452woodshed_300gr_large_2_d2.jpg&maxx=300&maxy=0 ]
Scorpion
[ http://www.customprojectile.com/thumbnail.asp?file=assets/images/scorpion_d2.jpg&maxx=300&maxy=0 ]
Scorpion expanded
[ http://www.customprojectile.com/thumbnail.asp?file=assets/images/Scorpion%20Expand.jpg&maxx=300&maxy=0 ]

I wonder how they got it to expand without messing up that center post?

[gunnut]

Thats ONE bad ass bullet! Whats the weight and diameter? Where to get them?

[Al in Mi]

Thats ONE bad ass bullet! Whats the weight and diameter? Where to get them?

http://www.customprojectile.com/

[BD1]

I'm real interested in these. Expensive, but very interesting. Take a look at the 300 grain "dangerous game" bullet in .452. Who's gonna pony up the $$ to see if the 265 grainer can handle the pressure?
BD