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Re: Mag Tech 230 Gr. FMJ testing.

Postby Hoot » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:42 pm

Texas Sheepdawg wrote:Like I said. There were "some" signs of pressure. But yes. Will take pics soon.
And thanx for the compliments. But everybody knows the guy with the guitar really made the video worth watching!
Thank you Phil Keaggy!


Was there an audio track? I compute with the system sound off and the stereo across the room playing. Oops :oops:

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Re: Mag Tech 230 Gr. FMJ testing.

Postby Texas Sheepdawg » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:56 pm

Hoot wrote:
Texas Sheepdawg wrote:Like I said. There were "some" signs of pressure. But yes. Will take pics soon.
And thanx for the compliments. But everybody knows the guy with the guitar really made the video worth watching!
Thank you Phil Keaggy!


Was there an audio track? I compute with the system sound off and the stereo across the room playing. Oops :oops:

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Re: Mag Tech 230 Gr. FMJ testing.

Postby randyf » Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:35 pm

I would like to see the results of a "water jug" test using some 350 gr. soft points...........anybody game ??
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Re: Mag Tech 230 Gr. FMJ testing.

Postby Hoot » Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:29 pm

randyf wrote:I would like to see the results of a "water jug" test using some 350 gr. soft points...........anybody game ??


Randy, are you referring to a sized down .458 bullet? While they don't represent the ultimate source in bullet selection, I could not find any .452 jacketed soft point bullets weighing 350 grains on Midway,

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Re: Mag Tech 230 Gr. FMJ testing.

Postby randyf » Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:00 am

Hoot wrote:
randyf wrote:I would like to see the results of a "water jug" test using some 350 gr. soft points...........anybody game ??


Randy, are you referring to a sized down .458 bullet? While they don't represent the ultimate source in bullet selection, I could not find any .452 jacketed soft point bullets weighing 350 grains on Midway,

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Yes, I resized some of these down to 452.......

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/633227 ... -box-of-50
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Re: Mag Tech 230 Gr. FMJ testing.

Postby commander faschisto » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:35 pm

Check your boots... :lol:
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Re: Mag Tech 230 Gr. FMJ testing.

Postby wildcatter » Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:55 pm

Hoot wrote:
Texas Sheepdawg wrote:Enjoy! :mrgreen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJpIsd9IIAw


Way Cool Robin!!!
Both during and the post production work it took to make that video.

Could you post a still picture of the case heads. I want to feel envious, because with my chamber, at those velocities, I'm usually rewarded with ejector and extractor imprinting. :roll:

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Re: Mag Tech 230 Gr. FMJ testing.

Postby Texas Sheepdawg » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:30 am

The TKO is as follows:
A Taylor KO Value of 37 with a bullet that weighs 230 grains, a velocity of 2521, and a diameter of .451.

I took a good look at my cases from the Hornady 230 FP and the only sign was on five of the six cases. Sign was just a slight little ejector circle imprint. Extractor engagement part of the rims looks fine on all six and no extractor type pressure signatures were noted. 
Case heads measured about like the Mag Techs, averaging .497- .498. 
The one case that did not have any pressure signatures just happened to be the longest case of the bunch. (1.690). The other five averaged 1.682-1.684. 
1.682"- .498"
1.684"- .4975"
1.683"- .497"
1.684"- .498"
1.682"- .498"
*1.691- .497". (*= shot fired at plate).
After firing, the side crimps were hardly even visible. 
That little line on #2 in this picture caught my attention so I went back and looked closely at that. I took a magnifying glass and a dental tool. It is not a crack, just a streak of carbon.
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Re: Mag Tech 230 Gr. FMJ testing.

Postby jamesgang » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:48 pm

Are we needing the extreme crimp in order to build enough pressure? I'm only using the taper crimp sent with the set, but I'm also not running my charges up that hot. I've only tested the polymer tipped Hornady's and some 165g magtech and 300gr XTP's with success.

I guess your next step is to bump it up a 1/16th and try for 1/2"?
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Re: Mag Tech 230 Gr. FMJ testing.

Postby Texas Sheepdawg » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:37 pm

Pictures are up.
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