Ralph Lemayer Lies!

[BillytheKid]

In the latest issue - Jan / Feb 2012 of Bear Hunting Magazine, Ralph Lemayer has his article on .458 SOCOM that reads, in part:

"The rising popularity of the AR15 and its rapid move to the dark timber has generated a need for that kind of muscle in the AR. Other cartridges like .450 Bushmaster or .50 Beowolf were created to fill this void and they are fine cartridges that get the job done, but they both require the rifle be modified. Parts need to be changed to make them function. Buffer springs, unique magazines, different bolt, etc. are all required.

The real cleverness in the design of the .458 SOCOM is that nothing need to be changed but the upper; same magazine as the .223, same buffer spring in the buttstock, same everything. Just get a .458 upper available from Rock River Arms, Teppo Jutsu or other custom builder, get loaded ammo from SBR Ammunition, Corbon or Reeds and go. Your .223 AR has just morphed from a varmint getter to a full-fledged bear stopper by simply changing the upper and no new FFL transfer required. Basically, one gun with two barrels."

What a load of crap!

[paulmark3010]

That show on Discovery Channel, Sons of Guns, recently had an episode where they "built" a 458 Socom AR to shoot hogs. I bet those 458 Socoms are flying off the shelves now. I wish Will Hayden would have chosen a 450 Bushmaster for that episode. Great publicity.

[Ghost Dog]

They sort of made it seem like they where the ones to get a 458 socom to fly out the end of a barrel.
All they did was put a supressor on it.

[FirstNation]

Pardon my french, but I think Will Hayden is a dick. If I treated my employees that way I wouldn't expect them to be around very long...

[Hoot]

Pardon my french, but I think Will Hayden is a dick. If I treated my employees that way I wouldn't expect them to be around very long...

That's what "Reality TV" is all about. Show the dickish side of interesting subjects to keep the uneducated also interested. It's part of the dummying down of our society. Way back when I first got cable, I loved The Learning Channel, Discovery Channel and the History Channel. Now they're more of a freak show, than a means of enlightenment, but boy has their bottom line gone up. (First Timothy 6:10)

Hoot

[Colohunter]

Unfortunately most producers seem to think that it wouldn't be "interesting" if there isn't some conflict. I can't stand most of the "reality" shows.

[paulmark3010]

I read where Will and Steph lost their FFL due to some full autos they could not account for during a routine inspection. Now Vince, the guy with all the tattoos, and someone else there has the FFL that Red Jacket is operating under. The story is that Vince is dragging up to start his own business. Now Steph is dating Chris, the apprentice there in the shop. Steph talks Will into giving Chris the lead on this government AR build and he is clueless. You can't make this stuff up. American guns is much better.

[Jeepejeep]

Back to the original story, the only thing he got right is that with the Bushie, you do need to change the follower if you want to use .223 mags unless you get the Sig ones.

[Texas Sheepdawg]

What the heck is that all about? I wouldn't worry though. Wait until they try to find that ammo and at a decent price.
It's a cutthroat industry in sporting goods, guys. I've been there and there are a lot of sporting celebs that in real life, are dismal jerks.

[commander faschisto]

And yet, they get their own TV shows...

I think we need to set up a "WildCatter and Hoot" show....now THAT would be a real dose of reality! Dawg could be the comic relief...

Why have all these goober gun writers danced around the one actually successful, functional big-bore AR, namely our 450b??? Did WC p*** in someone's Post Toasties?