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Re: 9MM World Record Group

Postby Texas Sheepdawg » Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:52 pm

I believe this rifle to be much more capable then what you're looking at there at those targets. I believe this gun can shoot much better groups with the proper rest. But my table has tiny legs and the ground is soft and the table was sinking in the mud every time I shot.
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Re: 9MM World Record Group

Postby wildcatter » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:55 pm

Texas Sheepdawg wrote:I believe this rifle to be much more capable then what you're looking at there at those targets. I believe this gun can shoot much better groups with the proper rest. But my table has tiny legs and the ground is soft and the table was sinking in the mud every time I shot.



Here ya go Dawg. Both averaged together are 3.9515MOA.

Now you have something to work against/with..

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Ps.. For you guys, that have the following down pat, stay out of my next question, I'm going to do a little teaching here. For you New Guys, New to the Ballistics Game, concerning these groups? I want to know what their overall size would be, if I extended these to 200yds, or better said, these groups, that the Dawg shot, went threw his target at 50 yards and then hit another target at 200yd.. "What would be their size, now"??? Tell us how you came to your conclusion. If you want to guess, then guess, sometimes that is the answer to hitting the target, it's called "Kentucky Windage", just say, "my guess is" or, "it's about.."..

I have gotten a couple of PM questions that start out.."I didn't want to look stupid, so instead of posting on the Board, I'd ask you directly". I always type back that No-One here would ever chastise you about being stupid, that we all have different levels of experience and WE-ALL have something to offer.

Now, what I'm trying to do here, is not only get data about 9mm Records, but it occurs to me that we could also use this data, as a teaching device. When you understand, what I'm actually asking, it'll make you Much Better, at hitting your un-known range targets and many-many other things as well, like which bullet/load combo works better for me and my needs, just to mention another one. Without answering my above question..Would you, more seasoned gents, please come up with some other ideas, as to why, knowing the answers to my question, makes you a better rifleman??

In the mean time I want to hear from guys, that didn't know the answer, until they got started down this road..t

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Re: 9MM World Record Group

Postby bigboreshooter » Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:48 pm

The average of booth groups is 3.9515 or 4 inches at 50 yards. Moa is standard at 1 inch at 100 yards. So double the group 8 inches moa or 16 inches at 200 yards. That is my best guesstimate. :?:
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Re: 9MM World Record Group

Postby wildcatter » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:20 pm

bigboreshooter wrote:The average of booth groups is 3.9515 or 4 inches at 50 yards. Moa is standard at 1 inch at 100 yards. So double the group 8 inches moa or 16 inches at 200 yards. That is my best guesstimate. :?:


That's pretty good, any comments? Next..

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Re: 9MM World Record Group

Postby Texas Sheepdawg » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:16 pm

BTW, wind was out of the south at approx 8-12MPH. This put the wind in the shooters face. My rifle range faces south. My pistol range faces west and will soon no longer exist. I will be combining the rifle and pistol range into one range.
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Re: 9MM World Record Group

Postby Texas Sheepdawg » Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:13 am

Just a little update. I've obtained some 124 grain Berrys, so I will try to load up a box for this test.
Also, my pistol range has been dismantled and I'm still having thunderstorms and its gumbo in the pasture keeping me from taking my truck out to my 100 yard mark. Thanx for your patience.
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Re: 9MM World Record Group

Postby wildcatter » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:56 am

Texas Sheepdawg wrote:Just a little update. I've obtained some 124 grain Berrys, so I will try to load up a box for this test.
Also, my pistol range has been dismantled and I'm still having thunderstorms and its gumbo in the pasture keeping me from taking my truck out to my 100 yard mark. Thanx for your patience.


Dawg,

The nice thing about your work here, now, is that, while you're going down this road, you're also improving your new range, all the while..

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Re: 9MM World Record Group

Postby Texas Sheepdawg » Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:29 pm

Yeah. But I have the patience of a jack rabbit on Viagra.
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