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UN Arms Trade Treaty

Postby wildcatter » Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:40 pm

Un Arms Trade Treaty (ATT).

So, Students, what does the Supremacy Clause, to our Constitution, the ATT, and July27th have in common?

Well, first the Supremacy Clause.

Any Treaty, the U.S. enters into, has the weight and obligation of an Amendment to the Constitution.

The ATT is in FACT a back door method to TOTAL American Gun Control (as in, Registration, followed by Confiscation).

Hillary will sign a Treaty with the UN, in a few days, July 27th, to be exact. Obummer "WILL" Cosign that Treaty.

The U.S., is then Obliged to perform under the ATT Mandates, until the Senate (the Senate Guys) can vote an up or down, on the ATT, in the Lame Duck Session, of the Senate.

So, the Democrat Controlled Senate will be the "Decider", as to what to do about this TREATY. Even if we Vote in a Republican Senate, the Lame-Duck Senators, the ones we are going to kick-out, will have nothing to lose, in the Lame-Duck Session. What do you think they will do?

This is the very reason, we have not seen anything really attacking our guns, out of the White House, until NOW. All the while, behind closed doors and very quietly, Obummer and Company has, like an Orchestra Leader, been laying down the Trump-Cards. And this Act, WILL TRUMP, THE SECOND AMENDMENT!!!

Think Not? Well, take a look at Dick Morris's Column on this very subject. Remember, Morris is the very guy who got President Clinton, elected TWICE. He was Clinton's Political Adviser, and thus by default the real #2 in that administration. And if that's not enough, do a Search on the "UN Arms Trade Treaty" and see what's "going to happen" on July 27th ("going to happen", as in it's a done deal, unless you can make a difference)..

http://www.dickmorris.com/the-global-gun-control-threat/

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Re: UN Arms Trade Treaty

Postby Texas Sheepdawg » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:48 pm

And to add insult to this obamanation....
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012 ... ill-Viable

I miss the days when the only things I posted here were daily humdrum events that made you laugh, roll your eyes or made you sympathize. But recent events in this country have totally taken over the buzz. The red flags are everywhere signaling an alarming message that our country is on the edge, teetering on the brink of falling into a troubling era of tyranny, Marxism and civil unrest. I have a very uneasy feeling about the future of our country. A sick feeling that I have never felt before. I know I'm not alone with these feelings as there are tons of folks out there who are also very concerned about what is unfolding around them. But there are some who prefer to stay in denial, hiding in their partying, drinking and indulgence in activities that blind them to reality that is quickly descending upon them like a hawk on a preoccupied rodent. To those select few I say, STOP! LOOK! LISTEN! 
You are acting like a sheep in denial and the wolf in Sheeps' clothing has already shed his disguise and is currently sharpening his butcher knives and inviting his neighbors for dinner. Stop being "We the Sheeple", get your head out of your backside and become "We The People". 
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Re: UN Arms Trade Treaty

Postby Gruger » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:12 am

Just another brick in the wall:

http://epic.org/2012/07/executive-order ... thori.html

FYI:
In Germany all guns and their owners are already registered. Right now at local authorities. With Dec. 2012 a central registry is established. All law enforcement agencies and secret services will get access to it (ok, security ...). But tax authorities and customs also are allowed to look into the data. About 250.000 persons will get access to vital data of about 1 1/2 million gun owners.

Gun collectors live in the fear that 1 officer might be enough for criminals to get information about "good targets".
Owners of semi automatic handguns and rifles are worried, because right now social democrats and the "green party" demand a ban of semi automatic rifles with "military appearance" and semi auto handguns with a caliber larger than .22 l.r.
Many gun owners demand to learn from "wiki leaks" and to NOT accumulate such data in one place or at least to not let "anyone" touch it. Think of data theft and possible release of lists ("this man is a gun owner") in a gun fearing (or hating) society.

Chance are "good", that social democrats and green party will take over in the election of 2013...
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Re: UN Arms Trade Treaty

Postby Texas Sheepdawg » Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:43 am

1 1/2 million? That's a bit surprising, but an impressive Militia just the same. The US has approximately 80 million gun owners, most with more than one gun. This could get ugly.
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Re: UN Arms Trade Treaty

Postby commander faschisto » Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:15 am

Dawg, I've been having the same creepy feelings you're describing about where things are heading, and I'm definitely not the wild-eyed conspiracy type in any way. Lots of people I know are getting the same "vibe"...this country is on the razor's edge of physical conflict between the "makers" and the "takers", so-called. I sure hope not, but it ain't lookin' good. Principally to blame for this are the leftist cockroaches we've allowed to infest our school administrations and Federal government over the last 40 years, in the name of so-called tolerance and inclusiveness. This was manifestly a very bad idea. To quote the late Rodney King: "Can't we all just get along?"...apparently not.

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Re: UN Arms Trade Treaty

Postby gtoboi65 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:27 pm

I laugh at all the people i have been telling this to and they snicker as if I'm insane. We have to stand up for whats rightfully ours. Once and for all, the conspiracies can be put to rest..... it's happening right before our eyes.
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Re: UN Arms Trade Treaty

Postby Texas Sheepdawg » Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:08 pm

Get out the VOTE guys. There are a lot of good folks that need to be made aware of these two articles. Most democrats who still believe in the second amendment need to be reached and shown that they have been betrayed. I showed these articles to an extremely liberal coworker this morning. A few weeks ago, we had a huge arguement over healthcare. This morning he says he's going to read these two articles cuz nobody is going to get his guns without a fight. (for those select few who were privi...yes! It's the same individual...)This IS NOT even being discussed in the lamestream media because they know it will turn gunowners who vote demorat against Obama et. Al. Get this information out in the light, make fliers, post in on your wall on Facebook, talk to your neighbors. This must be stopped before innocent Americans start to realize there's a blue helmet at the door.
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Re: UN Arms Trade Treaty

Postby wildcatter » Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:11 pm

Texas Sheepdawg wrote:Get out the VOTE guys. There are a lot of good folks that need to be made aware of these two articles. Most democrats who still believe in the second amendment need to be reached and shown that they have been betrayed. I showed these articles to an extremely liberal coworker this morning. A few weeks ago, we had a huge arguement over healthcare. This morning he says he's going to read these two articles cuz nobody is going to get his guns without a fight. (for those select few who were privi...yes! It's the same individual...)This IS NOT even being discussed in the lamestream media because they know it will turn gunowners who vote demorat against Obama et. Al. Get this information out in the light, make fliers, post in on your wall on Facebook, talk to your neighbors. This must be stopped before innocent Americans start to realize there's a blue helmet at the door.



You've mentioned this guy before. The real deal is, where was he while we were losing our Guns? I'll tell you where, he was Sleeping with the Enemy, that's where! These guys knew exactly what they were doing and forcing you to help down-trodden, at the end of a bayonet, has neither helped the poor, nor strengthened me. Heck, if we'd have just given the poor, the money,we the working class pay for, from the national debt, every one of them would have been Multimillionaires, and if we'd have done that, we wouldn't be looking down the barrel of a gun today. Does anyone here think that making the poor Millionaires, that there'd be any fewer of the Poor.. NO-WAY, then was all that Money used just to control ME?? You Bet it was!

We can blame this one or that, but the real blame is Robin's BUDDY and ME, him for being an idiot and me for letting him get away with it!!

Us Gun Guys, would rather, just be left alone, but that's just not the case anymore. While we had our heads in the sand, our Took-Us, was always the Target.

My Question is to the SEIU Members, we have here? Do you think your Union is backing Obama/Hillary in this ATT Deal or are they Representing you, again?

I am a lifer in the UAW (United Auto Workers Union), And I can tell you from the Inside, the UAW, long ago quite representing the Rank and File, in favor of bring the Socialist Workers Party, to fruition and the Plans of Obama/Hillary and the Democratic Party, are their Dreams come true. Is the SEIU any better, I think not, they may be even worst.


I fear bad things, coming our way, on the 27th..

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Re: UN Arms Trade Treaty

Postby Texas Sheepdawg » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:25 pm

Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer. Stop and think. Are our enemies keeping us closer? Do we know our enemies among us? Who and where are our enemies? Look around you. You can always judge a man by his enemies. Consider your personal enemies and judge yourself. A time may be coming where you will have to choose sides. Do we really know the nature and the resolve of the strangers and the evil that we have allowed through the door? You might want to reassess your social networking privacy settings and reevaluate relationships. My first cull on FB took me from over 200 friends to just under 100 friends. I am tightening the privacy screws every day on certain social networks. We can't block everything but we can isolate acquaintances that we should not be putting so much trust in thus minimizing traitors and tongue waggers.
This aquaintance Tim and I have been discussing here, voted for obama once and up until today has sworn that obama has been good for America and was planning on voting for him again. Hopefully the seeds of truth will now finally start to sprout and the scabs will be peeled from his eyes and he will see the truth. That's all we can do is plant seeds. And pray that the Good Lord will nourish them once they sprout. But seed planting in your liberal friends is your duty. Be nice, be real. And be honest and try to make sure that the seeds you are planting are seeds of truth. I have had numerous friends throughout the past few years come back to me and say, "You were right, it just took some growing up to realize it".
Keep planting those seeds, folks. And say your prayers at night asking God to open peoples' eyes....before its too late. But the sad thing is.....it may already be too late.
Fortunately, I know very little about Unions. Never been a member of one except a Firefighters' Union and I don't even remember what ever came of that. When I moved to Tx I never heard anything else from them.
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Re: UN Arms Trade Treaty

Postby 9x19MdM » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:21 pm

The other key piece to the "puzzle" that has been rumored is the postponing of the election. Civil unrest, OWS, Tea Party, Domestic Terrorist (i.e. members of this forum), returning vet's... there's a whole crap load of reasons they might declare martial law.
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