by wildcatter » Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:58 am
Keep in mind, we really do not need any expansion at all as the 45cal is already bigger than a 30cal gets after expansion and with expansion there is no guarantee which direction the bullet is going after it starts to expand and even a 180 degree turn is possible and I have the 3" scare on my face to prove it. Also, a pointed bullet for us is quite long, now add a pure brass bullet and the thing gets so long for say a 250gr, that powder capacity becomes an issue and almost no capacity for a pointed 325grainer or at least speeds so slow as to make the pointed solid moot. I myself am more into the BD-1 camp of thought. A high-speed flat point will give us 300+yds no problem and a FP disrupts more tissue than any expanded bullet in the same caliber and has the added benefit of traveling pretty much straight threw tissue, thus hitting the target we actually want destroyed, like a heart from a quartering away shot, which is a shot no expandable 30 cal can make on a moose, but we can. To do all that, given the extra length a brass bullet yields, and the need for speed to get the 300+yardage, the weights will have to probably be under 250gr. in a Flat Point configuration. Now, I have a great deal of experience with the 230gr-FMJ-FP's jacketed lead-core bullets and can wholly say they absolutely work, but even they will expand some. So the reality is, we're trying to design is a bullet that some here will buy and others won't, but even the others want choices. So, the mission is, what has the most over all utilitarian use and the most appeal at the same time. Of course we could always tweak the nose of the Camp-Followers and ask Barnes to size their 330gr socom bullet to 452, boy that would make some madder than ever, especially when their already limited supply of bullets gets allocated to a 452 size. Just a thought and maybe not even a good one, but tactically a wonderful idea, except, we probably need a much lighter bullet given the length issue.. But then again, who says we can't get them to build a couple of bullets, a light weight and a heavy one, humm.. One other thought, a boatail adds even more length. So you need to consider many issues and as this develops, don't be afraid to change your mind, SHOT isn't until the nineteenth, so we've got a little time and believe me, I will take your thoughts to the Biggies, just keep this Constructive Debate alive (this is the biggest reason I like it here, Const-Debate, could it ever occur on some of those other boards?) and thoroughly examine all the angles. And finally, when I tell them of the blue-ribbon panel of well over a hundred high-end Gun Cranks, they Will sit up and take notice, as they say..
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