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10-4 BD, we don't need the higher speeds but then again, we aren't the socom/bewulf guys either, what we've got is more akin to a ZR-1 Corvette and why not use that power. In this case, increased speeds give us longer ranges and better hit probability at unknown ranges. Taking that thought, maybe a lighter cast type bullet might just be the over-all trick imagine a 225gr+- bullet at speeds in excess of 3000?? If it penetrates everything (Elephants to rabits ) in a straight line and on the way through causes untold tissue damage and does this at a minimum of 300yds, is this not the objective? Is this not an argument for something far lighter than 250gr??? A 225gr+- in a hard cast-gc or plated Flat point at 3000+- really intrigues me, because I am a moose hunter, even though I normally shoot whitetails, I want to do it all and for the first time in shooting/hunting history we've got a system that can deliver this and a group of great guys here that can sort it all out..

I would like to see a lighter (225g+-), rebated boat-tail option.

Whatever happened to the PMC Hollow bullet?

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9B06E5DC1039E033A25752C0A9609C94649ED7CF

i've got a box of hornady .452" 200gr ftx to experiment with but they're lacking sectional density and these .50" 375gr xpb's have me seriously distracted right now.

Well, any option is a good option at this point.

I have a 230 grain gas checked RNFP mold on order from NOE. It's due in early February, so I'll try the light and fast cast boolit theory before too long.
BD

BTW - Magtech http://www.magtechammunition.com/store/p14details566.php makes a 225 grain solid copper hollow point. Designed for 454C.

I like the solid copper idea or even a steel core.

Some rough math, and a solid copper copy of the ftx comes out to around 210. the tungsten core about 285 ( both assuming the lead core is 85% by weight of the ftx). I vote expandable on the lightweight.

Midway is showing two loads coming from Remington.
250 Grain Core-Lokt Soft Point http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=334599
260 Grain AccuTip Boat Tail http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=987341
Now we have three factory loads.