Got to test the 225 ftx's on a button buck this week. 120 of BP substitute, still need to chrono, but figure around 2000 to 2200 fps. Shot at 20 yards thru some brush slight quartering entered just behind left shoulder went thru right shoulder and stopped at skin, right shoulder had a hole the size of my fist in it. Deer went 25 yards and was done. Recovered bullet retained 72% weight expansion was to .756". Iowa only allows center-fire in the lower 2 counties and then only late January antler-less so this was the best i could do for now.