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muddy wrote:Hello from Iowa. New member and 1st post. I just put a Bear Creek Armory 450 upper onto a spare Creative Arms lower last week and am in the slow process of getting it ready. My main goal is for my kids (ages 8, 10, and 10) to use it for deer season in September and am looking for suggestions to cut some recoil out of it. All 3 kids can shoot a youth 870 20 ga with 2 3/4" magnum pheasant loads no problem, and 2 of them slick turkeys with full on 3" mags... so they're used to shooting. Last year I used compression wrap to wrap a rolled up shirt on top of the stock (easy to keep cheek down) and then back around the butt plate (easy on the shoulder). It looked wonky and redneck, but it sure worked well on both their 20 ga Turkey gun and the 44 lever gun for deer. The 44 left horrible non existent blood trails so were upping the ante to the 450. I've heard it compares to a 20 ga kick, so am either going to do the towel/shirt wrap again or else look into other suggestions. Curious what any of you have done in retractable stocks to reduce recoil. Thanks, Matt
Hoot wrote:muddy wrote:Hello from Iowa. New member and 1st post. I just put a Bear Creek Armory 450 upper onto a spare Creative Arms lower last week and am in the slow process of getting it ready. My main goal is for my kids (ages 8, 10, and 10) to use it for deer season in September and am looking for suggestions to cut some recoil out of it. All 3 kids can shoot a youth 870 20 ga with 2 3/4" magnum pheasant loads no problem, and 2 of them slick turkeys with full on 3" mags... so they're used to shooting. Last year I used compression wrap to wrap a rolled up shirt on top of the stock (easy to keep cheek down) and then back around the butt plate (easy on the shoulder). It looked wonky and redneck, but it sure worked well on both their 20 ga Turkey gun and the 44 lever gun for deer. The 44 left horrible non existent blood trails so were upping the ante to the 450. I've heard it compares to a 20 ga kick, so am either going to do the towel/shirt wrap again or else look into other suggestions. Curious what any of you have done in retractable stocks to reduce recoil. Thanks, Matt
Welcome aboard Matt!
Best bang for buck is a cushy recoil pad, assuming they make one to fit that lower. If not, look into one you can easily mod to fit it. Second to that is a muzzle brake but especially with young shooters, that will need to include good hearing protection. The most effective brakes are the loudest but they're not the only choice out there. I once let a small framed 9 yr old shoot mine and he said "no big deal". He had been shooting a light weight .243 bolt action and said there wasn't much difference aside from the rock and rolling you get with AR's over a bolt action.
Hoot
muddy wrote:
Do you have any suggestions for a recoil pad? A quick Google shows several options, all with similar reviews, but mostly for 223 or 308 platforms. A Bushy is gonna thump more than my AR10.
The Limb Saver brand has always been good to me, looking that direction mostly because of past history, on other guns, but am open to suggestions.
Also, is there a 450 round that has less pop for kids to practice with and work on form? After having poor blood trails last fall my 8 year old boy says he's taking my Henry 45/70 "and just skipping the tracking and going straight to the high fives" this year.
Hoot wrote:muddy wrote:
Do you have any suggestions for a recoil pad? A quick Google shows several options, all with similar reviews, but mostly for 223 or 308 platforms. A Bushy is gonna thump more than my AR10.
The Limb Saver brand has always been good to me, looking that direction mostly because of past history, on other guns, but am open to suggestions.
Also, is there a 450 round that has less pop for kids to practice with and work on form? After having poor blood trails last fall my 8 year old boy says he's taking my Henry 45/70 "and just skipping the tracking and going straight to the high fives" this year.
Sadly no. I don't own an adjustable stock lower but many members here do. I'm sure one of them will wade in. Google could help you line up some candidates however.
Hoot
muddy wrote:Mr. Google offered a lot of suggestions... made it mildly difficult to choose. I have considered popping the adjustable stock off for a solid one... but I really don't like fiddle farting around with things as I'm not a tinkerer. Just want to make it easier on kids shoulders. Granted, they're probably tougher than I give them credit for. Thanks again
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