shadowwalker wrote:Rklenke wrote:Looking forward to your results, looks like a lot of work. BTW, those bullets I shot at about 1400fps into my lead recovery box (long box filled with dirt) traveled about 2.5 feet, almost to the end of it.
Tired of the industry ripping us off with there over price bullets. Might be allot of work but the end product is going to be well worth the effort.
And being able to cast and powder coat these at .04 cents, is going to be well worth the effort in my opinion.
it really bothers me when people complain about prices of commercial goods but don't even figure THEIR labor into the cost of the product you're producing. which is only a small % of the cost of said finished product.
the price of lead and copper has gone up almost exponentially over the last 5-8 years -- and thats only factoring in the material cost.
even going by your claim that they only cost you 4 cents each in material - but if you factor in your labor time, even at a nominal rate of $12/hr, the industry still isnt ripping anyone off.
i also wanna know where the hell you're getting lead suitable for casting bullets at 56 cents per pound.... cuz that stuff is in the realm of unicorns and leprechauns
lets do some simple math - lets say you're buying your casting alloy at $2/lb. which is pretty fair for clean ingots these days - and thats assuming you're willing to buy 1000 pounds of the stuff at a time. 500 grain bullets = 14 bullets per pound (7000 grains per pound / 500). thats 14.3 cents per bullet just in lead cost alone.
thats not considering ANYTHING for the cost of industrial grade equipment to mass produce bullets - which isnt cheap ....
just as an example, looking at equipment ONLY
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthr ... tra-25-000a current model of that equipment sells for $12,500 PER MACHINE. and thats not including the molds - which go for about $800 per set for each bullet you want to make on that machine..
http://www.magmaengineering.com/magma-m ... et-master/or the cost of leasing the building that equipment is operated in. and paying for insurance for said building and the equipment and employees it houses. the safety equipment required to properly ventilate the facility so your employees (and you) dont die from lead exposure. the electricity required too run it all. or the labor required to turn those raw materials into something useful. no less retail packaging. Or the shipping to get them to the retail location you buy them from, or the folks who stock the shelves, etc etc etc.
and i can only imagine the amount of red tape the EPA requires a manufacturer to go thru for a facility that makes bullets.
so comparing your cost per bullet on maybe $150 or $200 of hobby grade casting equipment you operate in your garage or basement isnt fair at all when you say we're getting ripped off.
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