by dogsniper » Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:47 pm
Not really sure how to post what others have said...but below is from a response PittedBore has....
"I did some more poking around on the web, and I'm not sure that dogsniper's original plan of using a "450 Bushmaster Short" would be legal.
As I understand it, the current Indiana regulations specify a "pistol cartridge", which the 450B obviously is not. The 450B can be chambered in a Contender or something similar, but so can a 6mm PPC. It clearly isn't a pistol cartridge. Perhaps it could qualify if there's a wildcat loophole in the current regulations.
I cannot find the actual regulations for IN. Does it specify "straight-wall" pistol cartridges? If so, that will also exclude the 450B."
The Indiana law is funny. You are correct, they specify pistol cartridges, OR cartridges with a maximum case length of 1.625" and minimum bullet diameter of .357". I actually contacted the Indiana DNR and asked them if a "wildcat" cartridge that was NOT actually intended for a pistol but that WOULD follow their guideline's would be legal and they responded that IT WOULD BE LEGAL....Actually printed their response and laminated it "just in case" I ever needed to prove it to a C.O. Other wildcatter's here in Indiana have been using a 35WSSM. They are taking a 325WSSM, rebarreling it with a .358 barrel, necking up the cartridges and using those....NOT AT ALL a pistol cartridges...but it meets all IDNR guidelines...for now. I was going to short chamber mine (1.625" case length) and seat the bullet to within a few thousandths of the lands and grooves, heavy crimp and call it a 45 Rooster. I know...why "Rooster"....that's an old nickname my Uncle gave me when I was about 13 and cocky as all get out....he still calls me that to this day so it seemed to fit.
Do I think they would really check with a dial caliper the length of the case? No, I do not. But I haven't won the lottery yet either so I don't trust my luck that much. lol And, I do consider myself a law abiding citizen (for the most part) and have absolutely no intentions of giving any C.O. a reason to confiscate my firearms. Please don't think I am trying to be a smart butt here, I assure you I am not, It is just that the majority of my hunting is done on Public land that is managed by the DNR and it is VERY common for the C.O.'s the show up at the designated parking areas and check to be sure everyone has a valid hunting license. I have never, ever seen them check anyone's firearm or bow for that matter (as Indiana has a minimum draw poundage on bows), but I feel as soon as I try to "pull a fast one", my luck it I will get hammered. If I follow the law, I don't ever have to worry about that.
As for the Reamer...I have spoken via email with Dave Manson, I have not ordered it yet, thankfully, because if they do in fact change the law, I will also order the go/no-go gauges. His recommendation for me if I short chamber it was to trim two cases, one of them to 1.626 to use as a go gauge, and one shorter as a no gauge. I don't remember off the top of my head how long he said to make that one...have to look back at my notes.
Hope this clears up some of the discussion on what is driving my decision making!
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